Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Skin Anarchy.

This one is very special because we are interviewing a true legend today in the world of aesthetics,

bridging the gap between so many different areas of medicine and bringing it into a place where we can really holistically understand beauty.

And so I know for a lot of you listening that I've been around for the ride for five years, you know, we love talking about the intersection of beauty with psychology, aesthetics, with topical solutions and just all of the wonderful things that really contribute. So today's guest really embodies all that with his career, with his work, with his impact. So without further ado, please welcome Dr. Stephen Dayan. Welcome, Dr. Diane. It's an honor to host you.

Pleasure to be here. Now, I'm excited because ever since we decided to do this, I've been

waiting to dive into this with you because this is something that I feel like no one really can

touch on. Like, what really is beauty and how do we interpret beauty? And like, both as consumers,

but also like even medical professionals,

without ranting too much, I want to talk about your career because it's multifaceted. And you've

touched so many areas with your work. When did you know you wanted to go into medicine?

I think I'm a son of an immigrant, so I think you're born with the thought you're going to

medicine. Early on, I was more interested in playing sports, football, and being social than school.

I got a late start, but around college, after getting a scholarship to go to college, like football,

which I realized quickly I was not going to be a professional football player.

I quickly converted to becoming a student, and I fell in love the school in college.

I went from a B-minus C-plus average in high school to being straight A school in college. I went from a B minus C plus average in high school

to being straight A's in college and becoming fascinated with education. I studied philosophy and

religion, which still encompasses so much of my thinking and so much the way I interact with my

patients and my colleagues. And then I went on to medical school University of Illinois and where studied medical school, and I knew quickly I wanted to be a surgeon. My original plan was to be a neurosurgeon because I was so motivated and so driven to be at the top of my game. Yeah. And I had risen up to do really well in medical school. And last minute, I had a detour because I talked to a neurosurgeon in the community, and said, no, you should do something else. Niro Surgery is not the greatest field. I was always an artist. I worked with Clay. I was a detour because I talked to a neurosurgery in the community, said, no, you should do something else. Neurosurgery is not the greatest field.

I was always an artist. I worked with clay. I was a sculptor for many years and I loved clay and I loved being artistic and plastic surgery is my second choice. So I went that route and I never looked back. I love plastic surgery and everything about it. Yeah, it's interesting you say neuro because a lot of people start out saying, I'm going to be a neurosurgeon

and find something else that fits better.

I did the same thing. So when I was younger, I was like, I'm going to be a neurosurgeon. And then it changes. But that's amazing. You've written books and done so many wonderful things that I kind of want to talk about your books because this is one of the only examples that I've seen personally where someone has

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