Hi, Dakota Ring listeners, it's Willa. We're hard at work on the upcoming season of the show,

which will be arriving in June. We've got episodes about the movies, elevator music, water, and more in the pipeline. But while you're waiting for our new episodes, we wanted to share one from the podcast, The Sporkful, hosted by Dan Pashman. The Sporkful is a show about food, and each week they obsess over food

in order to learn more about people.

Right now, the Sporkville is doing show about food, and each week they obsess over food in order to learn more about people.

Right now, the Sporkful is doing a five-part mini-series called Mission Impostable.

It's not quite a cultural mystery, but it is a genuine quest, an ambitious attempt to create a brand new, functional, delicious pasta shape from scratch and bring it to the market. Throughout the

series, you'll learn about what makes a great pasta shape, how pasta gets made and sold, and Dan's

very particular hang-ups about pasta. For what it's worth, I do not share his feelings about spaghetti,

but these are hang-ups that will hopefully lead him to making something great.

So here's the first episode of Mission Impostable. If you want to hear the rest, you can listen

wherever you get your podcasts and go subscribe. It's great. Bon Appetit.

Hello. Hi. Welcome to the caveat., we're kicking off something really big.

We've been working on it for three years.

And we'll begin at the beginning.

It's June 2018, and we're at Caviott.

It's a performance base and bar on New York's Lower East Side.

We organized this event there called the Bucatini Dialogues,

a debate about pasta shapes. After a brief intro,

I get right to the point. And I'm just going to go ahead and say it. Spaghetti sucks. Thank you.

Yeah. Yeah. I said it. It's round on the outside.

That means that it is a low surface area in relation to the volume.

That means that sauce doesn't adhere to it well.

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