I'm Rory Stewart and I grew up wanting to be a hero and I'm still fascinated by the ideas of heroism.

In my new series, I'm taking in the long sweep of history from Achilles to Zelensky and asking, what is a hero?

Simply doing your job, being a decent human being.

A true hero is someone who just kind of shines by

their own light and that light is to be recognised by others. The long history of heroism with me,

Rory Stewart. Listen on BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, music, Radio, podcasts.

Combining your job with a passion is something many people dream of.

I'm not sure how many achieve it.

The path most people take in their careers, well, that's driven by necessity, by money, by chance, maybe expectations of others.

Whereas passions, they're typically reserved for hobbies. Maybe they're put on hold until retirement. Passions might become side hustles, but going all in on a passion,

well, that takes real guts. It takes a particular type of person to launch any kind of business,

but a special sort of bravery, perhaps even recklessness,

to ditch a promising and potentially lucrative career for a passion project, especially

one aiming to disrupt an already well-established industry. I'm Evan Davis, and in this episode

of the decisions that made me, a series of interviews that explores the pivotal moments

in business careers, I'm going to hear about someone who did just that. Anthony Escanazi

is founder and president of the car parking app, Just Park. But before he started that, he was

on a very different path. So let's go back, Anthony, to before Just Park,

what were you doing? What was the career you had in your mind when you left university, for example?

Right. So I'll go back a couple of years earlier because I, as part of my, I had a mathematics degree

at Leeds University and my third year I had the opportunity to study at Berkeley in California,

which was phenomenal. And I got to, I was working at the campus computer store and rather than,

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