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🗓️ 6 August 2019
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0:00.0 | This is on the media. I'm Bob Garfield. |
0:03.8 | When events like the shooting in El Paso happen, the elements may indeed be obvious. |
0:10.0 | Guns, hatred, alienation. But the obvious is also reductive and risks obscuring larger forces at play. |
0:18.4 | What seems like an ad hoc spasm of violence actually flows from calculation |
0:23.4 | and organized cultivation. Also often mischaracterized is the vocabulary of race violence. White |
0:31.3 | nationalist, white identity, alt-right, white supremacy, white power. They're used interchangeably, which further clouds the |
0:39.7 | picture, because interchangeable they aren't. After the attacks in Christ Church New Zealand earlier |
0:46.4 | this year, we spoke to University of Chicago professor Kathleen Ballou. She told us that the |
0:52.4 | mosque shooting there was not just born of resentment and paranoia or even |
0:56.8 | radical racism, but of a clearly defined revolutionary movement, the white power movement. |
1:04.3 | Unfortunately, given recent events, that interview is once more an important lesson. |
1:11.7 | Why do you specify white power versus, say, white supremacy? |
1:17.1 | I think the closest term would be white nationalism. |
1:21.2 | But the thing is that when we talk about nationalism, |
1:23.5 | a lot of people think about sort of an overexertion of patriotism, and the assumption there is that |
1:29.5 | the nation implied in white nationalism is going to be the United States or New Zealand. In fact, |
1:34.6 | the white power movement is interested in a transnational white population that is attempting to |
1:41.6 | seize control of first white homelands and then eventually the world as a white nation. |
1:47.8 | And for this reason, I think white power is a better term for thinking about this and our reporting and in our debating, |
1:53.4 | because it conveys the radical future imagined by this movement. |
1:57.3 | And I think white supremacy is just overly broad. |
2:00.8 | White supremacy is an ideology held in |
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