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And now on with the show. Okay, it's been a while since david and i just sat down to talk shop and we thought we'd devote a few minutes at the head of

this episode to do just that so we think about david huggins now you asked the question that he didn't really answer in a way that made everything

so credible, so we've got problems with that story.

Well, you know, when it comes down to it, you know, Gene, you stop and you think about it,

right?

In the paranormal world, there's data, but there's so little of it, ultimately, really

what you have at the end of the day

are anecdotes. I mean, a lot of people would certainly say that about anything that I claimed on the show,

and there's just no escaping that. So you look for things. You look for, you know, why would somebody

make up stories about stuff? why do people look for attention

why do people want these things to happen to them

people want to have these kinds of experiences which to me

i can i can understand the drive for that

but it's like anything else in life gene you know you want something and then

when you get it you don't

it's not what you expected so in the case of David Huggins, you know, we asked him questions.

Did he convince me that he's had these experiences?

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