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The Knife: A True Crime Podcast

Decades in the Dark

The Knife: A True Crime Podcast

Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts

True Crime

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Burt Rosen searched for his missing son, Matthew, for over twenty years. Matthew had been struggling with mental illness when he vanished in 2001. Burt spent day-after-day making phone calls, scouring the internet, searching for any sign of his son. And then, 23 years later, a tip came in that changed everything. 

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:05.9

Hi listeners, we think you'll enjoy this new true crime podcast called The Chinatown Sting.

0:11.7

In the 1980s, Tina Wong was a new mother living in Manhattan's Chinatown when her best friend asked her for help with a project.

0:19.0

All she had to do was accept a package and Tina would get paid.

0:22.6

Struggling to make ends meet, she agreed and unknowingly found herself at the center of an international drug smuggling operation.

0:29.8

When the feds were tipped off, Tina had two choices, spend decades in prison, or risk her life helping the government bring down the man at the helm, one of New York's most notorious gangsters, no matter the cost.

0:41.9

Listen to the Chinatown staying wherever you get your podcasts.

0:45.6

This story contains adult content and language. Listener discretion is advised.

0:51.8

And I just sat there and it's half sobbing, half wondering, what happened to our baby?

0:56.9

How could this have happened to him? Welcome to The Knife.

1:16.3

I'm Hannah Smith.

1:17.3

I'm Pasha Eaton.

1:18.7

This week we speak with a man named Bert Rosen.

1:21.3

Bert and his wife Carolyn lived through every parent's nightmare

1:24.6

when their son Matthew vanished one day in 2001.

1:28.4

For nearly 25 years, they had no idea what had happened to him.

1:32.6

And then an unexpected phone call changed everything.

1:36.0

After 25 long years, Bert and his family finally got some answers.

1:40.2

We talk with Bert about the years leading up to Matthew's disappearance

1:43.2

and what happens when someone dealing with a mental health crisis is criminalized.

1:48.5

Let's get into the interview.

1:53.0

Okay, my name is Bert Rosen. I am happily married to Carolyn, my wife of 53 years.

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