Dec 12: National Hallydays

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 11 December 2017

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

This week in The Europeans, we're looking at national icons -- the beloved, in the form of French rock star Johnny Hallyday who died this week -- and the controversial, in the form of the Netherlands' Black Pete. Dominic talks to Anousha Nzume from Dipsaus, the hit podcast for Dutch women of colour, about why the Netherlands insists on making blackface a festive affair at this time of year. And Katy makes a valiant attempt to explain why Hallyday wasn't remotely famous outside France despite being a legend at home. Plus Ania Jakubek is back with news of a new Polish prime minister, with Dominic's Happy Ending bringing up the rear... Literally. Please rate and review us on iTunes so others can find the podcast! And hit us up: https://twitter.com/EuropeansPod | https://europeanspodcast.com

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Europeans, a weekly podcast about all things Europe, except for one thing,
0:21.6	which we make a concerted effort, never to mention. That is the B word Brexit.
0:27.5	Especially this week. We're not going to talk about it this week at all. Isn't that amazing?
0:31.9	Yeah, but we didn't last week either.
0:33.6	I know, but this week especially. It's the elephant in the room.
0:36.2	It is an elephant in the room. I'm Dominic and I'm in Amsterdam and I'm speaking to. Who am I speaking to?
0:41.3	It's me, it's Katie in Paris. How are you?
0:44.3	Yeah, I'm good, although it's kind of like snow-slee-tailing.
0:48.3	It is very cold, but it's warm in this podcast, so we're looking forward to giving you a happy, cozy half hour of funnalled
0:55.3	European chat. Well, we don't talk about Brexit, but we do talk about lots of other things.
0:59.7	This week, backed by popular demand, we're going to be talking to Annie in Warsaw about why they
1:04.2	suddenly got a new prime minister. Then we'll be talking about the very sad death of Johnny Halliday,
1:09.9	which has dominated the French news for
1:12.4	the last week.
1:13.1	And explaining who he is, because I feel like most people outside France don't actually know
1:16.7	who he is.
1:17.3	Including me.
1:18.0	But that's okay.
1:19.1	I'm here for you.
1:19.8	And then Dominic is going to be talking to the host of the brilliant Dutch podcast, Dipsalves,
1:24.3	which is a podcast for Dutch women of colour, about apparently festive use of
1:30.2	blackface in the Netherlands and all the problems around that. Yeah, it's a loaded topic, but I had a
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