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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Debunking Attachment Myths #2

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Dr Kirk Honda reviews an article by Dr Pascal Vrticka that debunks myths about attachment theory.

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00:00 Dr. Pascal Vrticka
01:04 Are dads 'secondary moms'? 
02:13 Is the Triune Brain Model a good explanation of attachment?
09:13 Is synchrony better for attachment? 
29:53 Is Oxytocin just the love hormone? 
36:31 Is Polyvagal Theory supported by current literature?
45:31 Are there parenting hacks that work for everybody? 
49:41 Is there really a left and right brain?  
50:51 Does attachment involve more than just fear and stress?
52:38 Why is parent-child bonding important to say? 
53:13 Do parents always need to be 'on'?
54:03 Is attachment parenting based on attachment theory?
1:10:55 Should parents let their babies cry it out?
1:15:25 Do we inherit our attachment style?
1:26:24 Are Buddhism and attachment theory related? 


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November 3, 2025

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0:00.0

Hey,

0:00.2

Jordan listeners, this is part two in which I read some myths in attachment and react to

0:07.6

them.

0:08.1

My name is Dr. Kirkana.

0:09.6

I'm a therapist and a professor.

0:11.3

The page that I'm reading from is Dr. Pascal Vertica's page,

0:16.2

Associate Professor in Psychology at the University of Essex, United Kingdom.

0:20.5

Dr. Pascal Vertica,

0:22.5

his last name is spelled V-R-T-I-C-K-A. His website is P-F-R-T-I-C-A.

0:30.5

And V-R-T-I-C-A.com. And I'm looking at the attachment myth-busting page.

0:38.8

So let's continue with the myths.

0:41.7

And I'll remind everyone, like in the first part of this series of episodes, I'll remind

0:47.2

everyone that I will probably be rambling to some extent.

0:50.9

So if you're not interested in a somewhat disorganized episode, I wouldn't listen to this.

0:55.9

The last episode definitely had rambly bits. So if that frustrates you, maybe skip this one.

1:04.0

All right. This next myth that is being debunked by the following statement, which is,

1:09.4

dads are neither substitute moms nor

1:11.6

secondary attachment figures. Yeah. So absolutely agree. And I appreciate this one being

1:18.3

in number three in that a lot of people culturally and sometimes in the clinical world will

1:24.6

think of moms as the primary parent and that the dads are secondary or

1:30.4

they're there to help or their secondary attachment figures or you'll have cultural or even

1:36.8

religious understandings that fathers could never replace a mother that men don't have the same

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