Debriefing on the Presidential Immunity Argument at the D.C. Circuit
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🗓️ 10 January 2024
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
Yesterday, a panel of judges at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments in former President Trump's appeal of Judge Chutkan's denial of his claims of presidential immunity in the Jan. 6 case.
On a livestream yesterday afternoon to talk over what happened in every phase of the oral arguments, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes spoke with Lawfare Legal Fellow Anna Bower who was in the room for the arguments, and Lawfare Senior Editors Scott R. Anderson, Quinta Jurecic, and Roger Parloff. Anna Bower discussed what is was like in the courtroom where both former President Trump and special counsel Jack Smith were seated. They talked about the merits and jurisdictional questions the judges considered, their impressions about what the judges may be thinking about the case, and how the lawyers performed. They even talked about whether Lawfare was once again first in line, and they looked forward to what happens next.
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| 0:30.0 | Having good representation is what you want in a case like this, right? You want both sides to be able to sort of set out the best possible arguments. |
| 0:40.0 | And counsel, for the special counsel, I thought did a really nice job as well. |
| 0:46.0 | There have been some arguments in this Trump litigation where the panel really kind of wipes |
| 0:51.9 | the floor with Trump's counsel and that certainly |
| 0:55.4 | was not the case here even though I think that we all agree that Trump is not |
| 0:59.8 | going to win this one. I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the Law Fair Podcast January 10th |
| 1:06.2 | 2024. Yesterday a panel of judges at the DC Circuit Court of Appeals heard oral arguments in former President Trump's |
| 1:16.4 | appeal of Judge Chuckin's denial of his claims of presidential immunity in the January 6th case. |
| 1:25.0 | We had a live stream yesterday afternoon to go through it all. |
| 1:30.2 | Joining me on YouTube and in the virtual jungle studio was Anna Bauer who was in the room for the argument |
| 1:38.0 | Scott Anderson Quinta Jurassic and all the way from France, Roger Parloth, we talked over what happened in every phase of the |
| 1:49.3 | oral arguments yesterday. |
| 1:51.8 | Anna Bauer discussed what it was like in the courtroom where both former President Trump and Special Counsel, |
| 1:58.0 | Jack Smith, were seated. |
| 2:00.0 | We talked about the merits and the jurisdictional questions, the judges considered. |
| 2:05.6 | We talked about our impressions about what the judges may be thinking about the case and |
| 2:10.6 | how the lawyers performed. |
| 2:13.0 | We even talked about whether lawfare was once again first in line, |
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