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This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from Design Observer.com.

On this program, Debbie Milman talks with Deborah Bishop about her career designing for magazines,

including your years working for Martha Stewart, and

the tension between designers and editors.

To me design is content.

Design and visuals, photographs, that is content. And that's

I struggle with every day when I work with editors because that's my belief.

Here's Debbie Millman.

Deborah Bishop is the creative director. Here's Debbie Millman.

Deborah Bishop is the creative director of Moore, the Women's Lifestyle magazine. That's just the latest in a string of high-powered jobs dating back to her early career working with Polish Air.

Between then and now she worked at Rolling Stone and House and Garden.

Then she deployed her talents for 12 years at several Martha Stewart titles, including a stint

as design director and initial creator of Blueprint magazine. As we say here in New York, she knows from typography, photography, and

illustration and she knows how to pull it all together in beautifully designed

magazines. Deb Bishop, welcome to Design Matters.

Thank you.

So Deb, you attended the Alberta College of Art and Design in Canada.

Are you Canadian?

Yes, I am.

I did not know you're a Canadian all these years. So when did you know that you

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