Deborah Esquenazi: Night in West Texas
Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson
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🗓️ 2 March 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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We’re taking you back to 1980s West Texas. When a Catholic priest was found murdered in a seedy hotel in Odessa, investigators focused on a gay Apache man who had made an accusation against the victim. Director Deborah Esquenazi tells the story in her film with Texas Monthly: Night in West Texas.
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| 0:41.5 | This story contains adult content and language, along with references to sexual assault. |
| 0:47.3 | Listener discretion is advised. |
| 1:01.3 | Here. He asks his lead detective, a guy he really trusts and says, |
| 1:03.7 | listen, I want you to pull the James Rios file. |
| 1:09.2 | Pulls the file, reads it, and then he says to the detective, where's the rest of it? |
| 1:10.8 | And he goes, that's it. |
| 1:22.1 | I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a nonfiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas. |
| 1:29.2 | I'm also the co-host of the podcast Buried Bones on Exactly Right. And throughout my career, research for my many audio and book projects has taken me around the world. On Wicked Words, I sit down with the |
| 1:35.5 | people I've met along the way, amazing writers, journalists, filmmakers, and podcasters who have |
| 1:41.5 | investigated and reported on notorious true crime cases. |
| 1:45.6 | This is about the choices writers make, both good and bad, and it's a deep dive into the |
| 1:51.3 | unpublished details behind their stories. |
| 1:55.3 | We're taking you back to 1980s West Texas, oil country. |
| 1:59.6 | When a Catholic priest was found murdered in a Citi hotel in Odessa, |
| 2:03.8 | investigators focused on a gay Apache man who had made an accusation against the victim. |
| 2:09.5 | Director Deb Escanazi tells the story at the center of her documentary, Night in West Texas. |
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