Debating FISA Section 702

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🗓️ 31 August 2023

⏱️ 22 minutes

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On this episode of the War on the Rocks podcast, deputy assistant to U.S. President Joe Biden, Joshua Geltzer, sat down with Nicholas Danforth to discuss the administration’s case for the reauthorization of section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They discussed the act's role in a changing threat environment, challenges in Congress and potential avenues to mitigate civil liberties concerns.

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0:00.0	My name is Nicholas Danforth and this is the War on the Rocks podcast on
0:15.2	strategy, defense and foreign affairs. We're here today with Joshua Guelzer,
0:20.7	deputy assistant to the president, and Deputy Homeland Security Advisor.
0:26.0	We're here with him to hear his thoughts on the administration's push to renew Section 702 of FISA. Puyse.
0:34.3	Joshua, you wrote an article recently,
0:37.8	reauthorizing section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence
0:41.3	Surveillance Act is a national security imperative.
0:44.7	So tell us why is this a national security imperative?
0:47.5	Nick, thank you so much for the chance to have this conversation and this collection authority absolutely is a national security imperative.
0:56.0	There are non-US persons abroad who do what a lot of us do.
1:01.0	They use the communications technologies. Think about
1:04.3	email providers that are based in the United States for many reasons because they're
1:09.0	cheap, they're reliable, they're user-friendly. But some who use those are bad actors. They are terrorists,
1:17.3	they are proliferators, they are hostile actors trying to recruit spies in our midst. And we as a government need
1:26.1	insight to our job of protecting the American people into those who are
1:30.3	essentially using those technologies against us to harm Americans.
1:34.4	That's what Section 702 allows.
1:36.5	It is a court overseen structure for the U.S. government obtaining communications of non-US persons
1:42.9	located abroad by working with US service providers.
1:46.3	And ensuring that this legal provision doesn't expire in December,
1:50.3	as it will absent congressional action.
1:53.0	If it were to expire, it would blind us to the things Americans care about most.
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