Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome.

I am Karen Hunter, and today I want to offer an interview I did in 2015 with a gentleman

who is known for, well, he's not known for much now, but he is the brother of

Mindy Kaling, the comedian, and the producer extraordinaire.

And he and I are paths crossed because he pretended to be black to get into medical school.

And I went on the rampage talking about him on Twitter.

And he tried to come for me. And then I invited him on the show to have a discussion. But I think

right now in the time that we're in with the discussion around affirmative action, which now is

gone, 2015, we still had affirmative action. It's now a thing of the past. There's a lot of

conversation about DEI and getting rid of all of this. And the power of it, and I wanted to sit

with this interview and I wanted you to sit with it because I don't know if my view has changed.

I have been a strong proponent of affirmative action because I believe that America was founded

upon racism

and to make that from redlining to discrimination.

My dad couldn't go to Seton Hall because he was black, right?

Back in the 1950s and 60s.

So for me, it's important to give people access and opportunities.

But he made a good point in this interview about resentment that comes

with it that I now agree with. And now that it is gone, I feel like we have an opportunity to

see what's really happening, which we're seeing. There's a whole other riff going on. Now,

he's of Indian descent, which is now also when we're talking about the visas and people coming in,

there's a lot

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