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The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 4 March 2024
⏱️ 13 minutes
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1885 Meeting of Antony and Cleopatra
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| 0:00.0 | I am Gaius John Batchelor. |
| 0:02.4 | Jomannicus is here, Michael Blahos. |
| 0:04.8 | We've been discussing the 21st century. |
| 0:07.5 | We turn now to our own century, the first century a. |
| 0:10.8 | Where Rome is the empire of the planet. Very, very |
| 0:16.4 | relentless. It is not wise to cross Rome. We know that is Romans, which is why we're so far from Rome. We're safer here as |
| 0:26.4 | Equis class. We can't get caught up in the machinations of a dagger in your back. We've been through the first century. The Julian |
| 0:34.4 | Claudians are gone. Not to return, I'm certain, with Nero's exit. That was the |
| 0:41.8 | end. |
| 0:42.6 | However, we're dealing with Emperor who is troublesome to the Senate. |
| 0:47.8 | At the same time, I've been talking to retired centurions, |
| 0:51.8 | who were here during the trouble, the recent troubles of the |
| 0:56.4 | Britain tribes. There was the Burgantians who are still prosperous. There was the Aisinai, not so prosperous. There was the Budica |
| 1:08.6 | rebellion of some decades ago. But lessons learned from the Burgantian rebellion. |
| 1:18.2 | So Germanicus, I put this question to you as I put to the Centurians. The Burgantians fought well and they lost. They're now reduced to being |
| 1:28.1 | a client state. The Ice and I fought well and they're now obliterated because that's what happens if you won't make a deal with Rome. |
| 1:37.0 | Is it something to learn that it is better to be a client of an empire than to defy an empire? |
| 1:46.8 | Is that a Roman lesson for the 21st century? |
| 1:49.7 | This is an important, even an existential question when it comes to the ability of one people, one great tribe to subjugate other tribes. |
| 2:11.0 | And it's our destiny to believe we're the best and people should welcome us. |
| 2:17.0 | We're the best. |
| 2:18.0 | Right. Not only subjugate them, but make them you. |
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