Hello, I'm Ian Stirling and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their potatoes hang on these are odd-looking potatoes

That's kale Ian. You do know you need potato to make chips, right?

Yes, but we don't just grow potatoes. We actually rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy. So we eat McCain chips

I'm helping do some good. Exactly. Yeah, you're supporting the move to regenerative farming

By the way, I do know the difference between kale and potatoes

Of course you do.

McCain, let's all chip in.

I mean Stirling and today I'm at a McCain potato field being chased by a massive war

It's just a lady bird Ian. Well, it had a real war spanner, Jay. Why are they here? Well, we plot wildflowers to help encourage wildlife

Like birds and insects. So we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good. Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming

Okay, this time it's definitely a wasp. My life's in danger

Ian, that's a butterfly. McCain, let's all chip in

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Many in the world see the influence of the United States as a force for good

It applies pressure on authoritarian regimes such as Iran to abide by human rights and its supports nations such as Ukraine

Defending themselves against imperial aggression

But others argue that the Afghanistan and Iraq wars show that American exceptionalism and the attempt to play the world's policeman

I've reached havoc with the rest of the world, which is still paying a price for America's foreign policy

Today we're delving in some part two of our debate is America a force for good in the world

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