Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Walton.

What's up, SCS Nation?

Welcome to Survive and the Survivor.

It is the show that brings you the very best guests in all of true crime on trending cases and sometimes on

trending topics and tonight uh you're going to go back to law school even if you've never

been because we're going to talk uh the death penalty uh and sort of uh from an academia standpoint

uh the guests tonight are usually i uh you know I'm used to this, but tonight I got to tell you, got three brilliant minds, legal minds on.

So a little daunting, but I'll let them do all the talking and I'll do as little as possible.

But we are talking tonight about Brian Coboberger and Luigi Mangione.

Brian is 30 years old, Mangione, 26.

So both obviously incredibly young.

Both are facing death.

It just came down this past week that the new attorney general has basically directed New York State to pursue the death penalty penalty so we'll talk about the nexus between the federal government and state government how all that plays out and uh

coburgers team they're fighting tooth and nail it's interesting uh one is using sort of an ideological

approach and that is mangioni that uh death is unfair, that, you know,

it's a political target.

And with the Coburger's case, using specifics of the law, things like discovery being too

voluminous.

Without further ado, I'm going to introduce the guest, and this is a powerhouse panel here.

First up, we've got Michael McCullough.

He has practiced law for over 30 years, currently in private practice in West Palm Beach.

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