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John O'Neill joins us today. He is a lawyer and a writer, author of a book called Unfit for Command.

That was about the John Kerry Swiftboat episode, for those of you of a certain age, and also a book called The Fisherman's Tomb,

which is about the search for the site of the burial of St. Peter.

His new book is The Dancer and the Devil, Stalin, Pavlova, and the Road to the Great Pandemic.

That is our topic today. Welcome, Mr. O'Neill.

Thank you very much, Mark.

It's an honor to be on your podcast.

Right off the bat, who was Anna Pavlova?

Anna Pavlova was the greatest dancer, ballerina of all time.

Much of the history of ballet revolves around Anna Pavlova.

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