Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Five Star App Meditation Studio.

I'm Patricia Carpice, co-founder of Meditation Studio and your host on Untangle, along with my co-host, Ariel Garten, one of the founders of brain-sensing headband Muse.

Join us each week as we introduce you to authors, experts, and thought leaders who share

their stories on how meditation, mindfulness, and brain-focused practices have the power

to change our lives.

Whether you're just learning to meditate or want to deepen your practice, meditation studio

with hundreds of guided meditations, and Muse, which gives you real-time feedback on your

mind during meditation and muse too which also tracks your breath your heart and your body

are tools you'll definitely want to have in your back pocket now here's this week's episode with

r a so this week we have a very special guest, a returning guest, Dr. Dean Ornish. Dean needs

no introduction, but in case you haven't heard his name, he is the physician to many of the

world's most amazing decision makers. He's a leader in lifestyle medicine. He was really one

of the pioneers

and the idea that what you eat, how you move, how you love, effects and impacts your health.

And he's doing tremendous work changing the way we think about medicine and ourselves.

He was also just on Oprah's Super Soul Sunday. So I'm excited to hear all about what he and Oprah jammed about and learn

from Dean's endless pool of medical knowledge and wisdom around the heart and the mind. Welcome, Dean.

Well, after that introduction, maybe we should just quote all we're ahead and say goodbye. Thank you.

Let's say hello. Welcome. It's so wonderful to have you here great to be here thank you for having me

thank you so first question inquiring minds want to know how was jamming with opra on super soul sunday

oh well Oprah's Oprah you know it's like uh playing one-on-one basketball with michael jordan you know

or something along those lines or or Andrea Iigodola.

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