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My guest today is Dean Karnasis. He is an ultra marathon runner and author of the book Ultra Marathon Man.

Please enjoy our conversation.

Dean Karnasis, welcome to the American Glutton podcast.

It's thank you. Have me run by.

Yeah, thanks so much for doing this man. Listen, I can't run,

but and I have no, I personally have no hope of ever doing an ultra marathon,

but I do imagine even if you like running, even if you wake up every day and you just go,

I want to go for a run. At some point in an ultra marathon,

there comes a point where you have to beat your body and your mind.

And I'm really interested in hearing about how you do that.

I mean, unless you just say, no, I'm a freak, I love it the whole way.

And if I didn't have to sleep, I could run forever and never stop.

Like I can't imagine that's the case.

There's a sense of exploration when you do these kind of things,

both the environment and external and internal.

I think that for me, when things get tough,

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