This audio is brought to you by Muslim Central. Please consider donating to help cover our running

costs and future projects by visiting www.MuslimCentral.com for the slash donate.

Just to play devil's advocate here, one of the kind of objections for Muslims going into

the public domain and working on and cooperating with people on these issues of helping

clear, you know, muslim have for everyone helping the poor, the the the needy and so on and so forth.

One of the criticisms as you probably know is, you know, you have to end up working with people

who have some maybe obviously views that you disagree with, right? I mean the extreme example

LGBTQ lobby and that kind of stuff, you know, and they'll say, or, you know, the people who are trying

to reform Islam and that kind of stuff based on kind of maybe a white west and horizons,

yeah, liberalism and so forth. So what would you say if somebody kind of criticizes you or

anyone else for that, for, you know, sharing a platform as such, such a person or, you know,

you know, the usual criticism. I mean, what's your view about them? I think, I think, look,

there are at the loud, there are the very, you know, the very far criticisms that are

that just accuse Muslims of, you know, seriously wrong things and then there are the

fair critics. So I want to focus on fair critics, right? So I think it is very fair criticism,

a very fair criticism that when you go to a space, are you lending more credibility to that space,

are you bringing an Islamic presence to that space? And it's something that we have to juggle

in our lives, all the time. And, you know, I think that the answer to that is that we need to

develop frameworks, right? So, you know, Sheikh Dahu Dhuadi wrote the book, Toward Sacred Activism.

I recently actually taught a class that column with the seminary students and put out the notes

on, towards a sin of framework, I think we need to build up our framework so that we're not

ambiguous, right? I don't think that we can, we can, actually, let me just put it this way,

...