Happy to have D. Smith sitting in with the junks.

Go get his new book.

Turf Wars, the fight for the Soul of America's Game, wherever books are sold.

Hey, far be it from me to defend Jerry Jones.

Because I don't care about him at all.

Here we go.

I get nothing.

But you attacked him, said if there was a dollar bill on the sidewalk. He'd bend over and get it.

Who wouldn't?

I would pick up a dollar bill. Gags would pick up a dollar bill. Sure. Jew, I believe you would pick up a dollar bill. I'd pick up a dollar bill. I probably wouldn't back my car over somebody to get it. Okay. All right. That's a different story. That's a different story. Well, Jerry, you know, look, the book was fun because I spent 15 years with these guys and very few people get an opportunity to negotiate against, you know, 31 billionaires.

They all have their quirks. But, you know, the reality of it is, man, these guys live in a world where if they can impose their will on you,

they will. That's just reality. That's how they've gotten to where they are. That's how they've gotten where they are. I got a bunch of things still. I want to ask you while you're here. But I got a listener, a diehard listener, though, and he's just skeptical. He's saying, I know D's your guy, but he refuses to believe and I'm like, dude, they went to court over it.

He refuses to believe that a network

was signed a deal Yeah. He's saying, I know D's your guy, but he refuses to believe, and I'm like, dude, they went to court over it.

Yeah.

He refuses to believe that a network was signed a deal that would pay for no product. Yeah. Can you explain how that, maybe that worked in their head? Sure. No, I mean, I guess one thing I would say to the fan is, man, have you read the TV contracts? Mm-hmm. Uh-huh. Well, and pump the brakes.

I did.

Right.

You're not making it up.

I can answer.

There's no chance he rat. man, have you read the TV contracts? Mm-hmm. I'll pump the brakes. I did.

Right, you're not making it up.

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