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Mega is an improvised satire from the staff of a fictional Mega Church. We are here, Lord, we are here, and we're ready to podcast.

Hey, yo, this is your friend De LaBant.

I'm hijacking the podcast again because unfortunately for my mom, Hallie, she's, well, she's not exactly a digital native.

Today I received a call from my new friend, Bart Campolo, and we talk about Bart Erman and T.M.

Lerman and a lot of really great thinkers and people.

And basically, Bart is a guy who has a podcast called Humanize Me. He used to be a believer and he's not anymore.

But he's one of those guys that's like, don't burn it down type of thing. He's not trying to like look at the divisive stuff between like maybe faith-based people and people who no longer believe that way, but he's looking for like,

what are the common values that we have? And how can we find common ground and make life meaningful and not about like heaven, but making your life heaven here right now instead of hell,

which life can often be a lot like hell anyway. So he's going to call me. And I hope that you

enjoy being with me today on an episode that I've hijacked the podcast again.

This is Megha.

Hello.

Hey, this is Day.

Day, this is Bart Campolo.

Hi, Bart. Should I call you Bart or Mr. Campolo or?

You should certainly call me Bart.

Everybody calls me Bart.

That's cool.

I don't know any Bart's.

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