How does this end? I think by now it's a race between the energy crisis that we've just mentioned

and what happens on the home front regarding rockets and missiles flying here, mostly from Iran,

but some from Hezbollah, and also being launched at the Gulf states.

So it's a question right now of stamina in a way.

It's a very Israeli or Jewish version of a stiff upper lip with Israelis holding their ground and insisting on fighting

and again, believing in the goals of the campaign

in order for this to end with an Israeli and American victory.

Thank you. in order for this to end with an Israeli and American victory. The U.S.-Israeli on Iran hits day 20. Is it going to plan? It's unholy. I'm

Jonathan Friedland in London. And I'm Unholy. Two Jews on the News. This episode should be come

with a disclaimer. Like this episode is brought to you by one co-host who slept two hours

tonight. So I think since midnight on Wednesday, and to this moment, we're about midday on

Thursday as real time. So I think we've had seven sirens. And I have had seven cups of coffee. So

that's where we are in case you're wondering, Jonathan.

Yeah. I mean, and we, you know, our guest, Amos Harrell, whose voice you heard just there,

the brilliant military affairs, Anglos Faradz. He also, you know, through our conversation,

was regularly noting that this is just the 21st day without, you know, without a night's sleep before.

And everyone listening to this who has people or knows people or is actually in Israel

will just know that this is really taking now just a very physical before you even get to the

emotional and psychological stress. Just the physical toll of interrupted nights.

I mean, we've tried different ways, aren't we, to sort of convey to people what it might be

like talking about, like having a newborn baby, except, as you brilliantly pointed out last week,

that's actually a good thing. You also do have a baby. In this case, just how that, you know,

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