Hello and welcome to another episode of Happy Mom, Happy Baby, the podcast!

Today's guest, well she's an amazing woman, she's a television presenter, an author of the most incredible books,

a podcast host and a mother of two. It's Dorno Porter! Hi! Hi! Hi! How are you?

I'm fine, I'd like to say like just doing this was really breezy and easy and I didn't, I'm in my friend's house down the street from my house

because they're away because I couldn't possibly have done this in my house right now.

But what time is it there?

But just coming up to noon?

Okay, I'm literally having to put it like to put it in nap times, so either the baby's nap time or when they're all asleep,

because it's just otherwise- Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, Valentine dropped his nap the week that lockdown started.

No!

Yeah, we were like no way. Anyway, we've managed to work it out that if we walk him in his stroller he will sleep,

so we're just kind of in that habit of around two o'clock in the afternoon, one of us takes him for a walk with a dog and he'll pass out for an hour or an hour and a half.

And thank God, because that was just, that was a devastating moment.

When the last one drops their nap, you're like no!

Did he just start refusing to go?

Did he just start refusing to go?

Yeah, he's got a real mind of his own. He's got a real mind of his own.

He's one of those kids where like one night just refused to sleep in a cot anymore and just like no one's going to go in a big boy bed and that was that done.

I had the exact same I've got to say with my second.

It's like he just had his own mind, he knew exactly what he wanted to do when he wanted to do it, out of his cot really early, dropping the nap,

doing everything. I think he started learning how to ride his bike a week after Buzz could ride his bike.

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