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Is America headed for a new golden age, or will Donald Trump's promise falter?

And where does that leave the quest for prosperity across the Atlantic?

That's a question on the lips of many economists and business leaders and politicians all

around me mingling here at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Welcome to PowerPlay, Politico's interview podcast where we talk to some of the most compelling voices making the weather.

I'm Anne McElvoy, if you haven't already.

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Davos or when I come back down to earth beyond.

And my guest today are big beasts in the jungle of economics. Ken Rogoff is Professor at Harvard,

chess grandmaster and formerly chief economist at the IMF. Joining him and me is Hugh Van Steenis,

who's been senior advisor to Bank of England Governor Mark Carney a few years ago,

now vice chair at the consultancy, Oliver Wyman.

Ken Rogoff and Hugh Van Steers welcome both to Power Play. Hi, Ken.

Greetings.

And Hugh, first time.

Delight to be here. Now, Ken. Greetings. And you, first time. Delighted to be here.

Now, Ken, let's look to that promise of Donald Trump's, the golden age of America.

You have praised the economic policies in Trump's first term to a degree, especially deregulation, tax reforms.

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