Davos 2025: Changing their minds on Trump — Anthony Scaramucci and Niall Ferguson
Power Play
POLITICO
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🗓️ 22 January 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode is presented by IBM. |
| 0:03.0 | AI is set to revolutionize the world, but IBM says more collaboration and investment in open-source models is needed to help society innovate even faster and more inclusively. |
| 0:13.0 | AI can be built in a transparent, ethically compliant, and safe way. |
| 0:19.0 | That still involves participation from more than just a handful of |
| 0:23.5 | companies. Here from IBM's chief privacy officer next Monday on a special episode of PowerPlay. |
| 0:32.7 | Donald Trump's first 24 hours in the White House have certainly been the talking point here at Davos, |
| 0:38.9 | where business leaders and politicians mingle and digest what the new era means for them |
| 0:44.1 | and the rest of us. |
| 0:50.7 | Welcome to PowerPlay, Politico's weekly podcast, where we talk to some of the most compelling |
| 0:56.6 | voices on either side of the Atlantic. I'm Anne McElvoy, and if you haven't already, please |
| 1:02.4 | take a moment to follow this podcast so you don't miss an episode. My guests today on this edition |
| 1:08.5 | from Davos know the way that Donald Trump operates. |
| 1:12.4 | Anthony Scaramucci was briefly the White House's communications director in Trump's first administration, |
| 1:19.3 | before becoming one of his fiercest critics and he's since actively campaigned against him. |
| 1:24.9 | What does he make of Trump the return? |
| 1:29.8 | Later, I'll be talking to the historian, Sir Neil Ferguson, senior fellow at Stanford and Harvard Universities, and an authority |
| 1:35.6 | on American and European political history. He's changed his mind about Trump, but in the |
| 1:41.4 | opposite direction, so why does he reckon this president could be |
| 1:45.3 | good for the global order? But first, Anthony Scarii, welcome back to PowerPlay. You are in fact |
| 1:51.1 | a frequent offender on this show, aren't you? Yeah, well, I'm a frequent offender, generally offensive, |
| 1:56.9 | but I love being on your show and thank you so much for inviting me back. |
| 2:02.7 | Well, great pleasure to have you. |
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