Hi, this is Billie Jean King. This is Mary and Bartoli. I'm Matt's Belander. This is Mary Carillo.

This is Yannick Noah and you're listening to the tennis podcast.

Well folks, it is 9.47 pm in London and Solihull and 10.47 pm in Madrid, which is

obviously where Matt is and where a lot of the tennis community is right now, a lot in Innsbruck

and in Churin as well, of course. And just moments ago, we watched 40-year-old Feliciano Lopez

walk out on the court in Madrid to play a decisive doubles rubber for his country, a rubber

that is decisive precisely because he, a couple of hours earlier, when he was also 40 years old,

beat 24-year-old André Rublev to keep Spain's hopes alive of qualifying for the quarter

finals. He is alongside Marcel Grinoyas. They're taking on the Russian team of Aslan Karatshev

and André Rublev. The scenario here is very simple for Spain. If they win

their through to the quarters, if they lose their out to the scenario is rather more complicated

for Russia and various other teams that will be affected by this result, I really wish for

your sake and mine that I could tell you very simply right now who's through to the quarter finals

and why. But that is so far Matt from being the case. Yes, how are we enjoying around Robin people?

I'm hating it with a passion. Yes, I think my experience of round-robin this week is that it is

improved if you are completely across everything. And you know what's going on because then it means

that every set, even every game actually has possible meaning and ramification. However,

the issue is the vast majority of people very, very understandably are not going to be across

every little detail and it therefore becomes very, very complicated to understand what is going on

and equally complicated to actually communicate that to a viewer. And even the players, I mean,

I think Daniel Mevadev after winning his singles match didn't seem entirely sure whether

Russia were through or not and that is not very satisfactory really, is it? It was a very

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