Hello all the cinephiles fans, this is the outlaw John Roca joined as always by my co-host Steve Morris.

Hello, how are you?

Good man, good and a little bit sad and we are also joined by our very special guest who was our guest when we originally recorded this episode for Star Trek 6.

That is noted film historian, co-host of Enterprise Incidence.

One of the greats in the Shmoown, one of the legends of the Shmoown, but also someone that both of us are proud to call a friend Steve Morris and that is the great Scott Mance.

Scott, welcome back for this special intro, I guess, not fun, special intro for Star Trek 6.

Well, thanks so much gentlemen, you guys have been great friends for so long now at working with both of you in various capacities.

And you know, David Warner is a legend, an absolute legend and his association with Nicholas Meyer who directed him in Star Trek 6 goes back much, much further than that.

The first time I saw David Warner in a film was time after time directed by Nicholas Meyer.

He's Jack the Ripper and you know, Malcolm McDowell as Sherlock Holmes is on his tail in modern times.

It was a really fun movie, it came out 79 and I was like just at the right age for that.

And then I just seen Warner in so many movies over the years, even Star Trek 5, he was in a lot of people don't remember that.

He was, but also, I mean, just, you know, I just rewatched about two months ago, one of my favorite movies, which I'm not ashamed to say this Titanic.

Love Titanic, I am a crazy Titanic fan and you know, he was, he was really, really great sort of chewing scenery as the foil for Leonardo DiCaprio's Jack.

But he was Gorkhan in Star Trek 6 and his, I guess his parting words in Star Trek 6 kind of take on a more of a resonance.

Don't let it end this way, Captain.

Yeah, and that's what we're doing this intro Steve. It's because of the the passing of David Warner who we lost on the same day that we lost Paul Sorvino.

So pretty sad day and we seem to be losing a lot of the greats recently and certainly David Warner only 81 years old, which is not, you know, people lived till 90 or 100 now.

So it's really sad to see him go, but certainly he was part of, as Scott mentioned, a part of so many different types of films and TV shows.

What do you think when you think about David Warner, either in Star Trek 6 or as an actor?

I think of his power, I guess is the biggest word is there's such a dignity about him and a power and a veritas about him, the guy.

And particularly it's so funny thinking about the two big Star Trek roles.

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