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Welcome everybody to the Untold Story podcast.

I'm really pleased today.

We have a special guest with us.

David Vondrelli is joining us, and he's a journalist, Washington Post, long-time Washington reporter covering politics. He's written a lot of

books about history over the years, including, I think the most recent one, David, a history book,

was about the triangle, a shirtwaist fire that changed the country and just taking on fascinating topics.

So it's great to have you here. Welcome, David. Thank you for having me. It's great to be with you.

So you were sort of living the reporter life in Washington, very fast-paced environment, and you decided to pick up your family and move to Kansas City. Why did you do that?

Well, we had four young kids and my wife, a great journalist,

herself, was busy with them. And so we were trying to make our way on one reporter's salary

in a very expensive and, as you say, very fast-paced, hard-to-manage kind of a city and the opportunity

came along to get back to the middle of the country which is where we're both from to raise

our kids in a place where people don't necessarily get paid to argue for a living as we do in

DC and so we came to Kansas City.

Was it a hard adjustment for you? I mean, after you moved, did it sort of instantly feel right?

Or was it getting down to that different pace? Was that a challenge? You know, it really felt

right almost immediately for me.

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