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One thing you definitely learn in war, that you don't even learn in soft peace time in the same way is Brotherhood.

It is totally different when you're out in Indian country doing some like crazy stuff.

And you know, you either got to protect your boys or they got to protect you or you would have died except you know Bob went over there and

did the thing or vice versa that's like a level of bonding that was like I don't

know if there is anything else like it you do reach a point and somebody will do

something to you where you reach a point

you realize that like you actually can't hurt me. You can't you can cut my all four my limbs

out you can't break me. That is a like a weird like power level that is uh it's hard to describe

but that's a huge gift. So I was actually a disaster when I got out because I didn't want out.

And, you know, in a weird kind of way too, like, I just never thought I'd live that long.

Clay, thanks again, brother. I know I did it multiple times, but I appreciate you doing this for us. Tell us kind of the moment where you decided on service and how you chose what service you wanted it to be.

Perfect.

That's kind of one of those, I was thinking about this a little bit last night.

And part of this, I think, for our entire generation, is honest to God, it's action movies.

It's like legitimately like Chuck Norse movies.

All the cool dudes and all the movies in the 80s were Commando guys with some flavor. This is also, I think it had a cultural impact on us because remember when the VCR came out? That's right. And also we could go rent movies. This is something that I think is like totally absolutely, it's something you can't even imagine in the year 2026 we're living at now. That's right. Because of that, it had an outsized cultural impact on us.

I actually, one of my darker moments if this was like a shaping operation for the G-Wod. But, you know, I was the same as all the other kids. You know, Chuck Norris, Delta Force, you know, Commander. Charlie Sheen. Yeah, Rambo. The whole thing. Half the thing you read on the back of the book is like what's his or the box of the movie is like what's his serve like a force recon junk.

John Claw. Yeah, yeah. The whole thing. Have the thing you read on the back of the book is like what's his, or the box of the movie

is like what's his serve, like a force recon, John Claw, like sweet, all right, we won't watch this one. So that had an impact, but I wouldn't say that was, you know, all of it. Second piece was access to veterans, which I didn't have a lot of when I was a lot younger, but enough that it had like an impact.

It rubbed off.

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