MS – 13 David Paul served with the Suffolk County Police Department for 20 years. Since that time, he has written true crime books, helped with Russian Organized Crime investigations, and has become an expert in the infiltration of Long Island by the MS-13 gang from El Salvador.  This podcast tells the story of the MS-13 gang, how they got from El Salvador to Long Island, and about the crimes they have committed. David Paul, police officer, Russian organized crime expert, screenwriter and MS-13 expert David’s most popular book is Unearthing a Serial Killer and can be found by clicking on the title.  In this book, David tells the horrifying story of Alex J. Mengel’s violent and brutal crime spree in the suburbs of New York City. He became the ‘Most Wanted’ man in North America in 1985. Thirty years later, other acts of evil committed by Mengel, were uncovered and that is what led David Paul to write Unearthing a Serial Killer. Transcript of the MS -13 story I am trying something new and I had the audio podcast transcribed and below you will find the unedited transcript of the entire show. let me know how you like hits effort. I have to pay a transcribing service and I cannot decide if it is worth the cost to have this done. Steven Colbert: You are listening to gang land wire hosted by former Kansas city police intelligence unit, detective Gary Jenkins. Gary Jenkins :     Welcome while you are camera’s out there. I’m here on the cell phone, actually not the zoom this time. So there won’t be a video with my friend, David Paul, who is a retired Suffolk county police officer from [00:00:30] up in New York. He lives in upstate New York. Now he’s retired. He’s written a book on a serial killer, but more importantly for you. Guys’ information. He’s worked a lot on Ms. 13 and you know, we do organized crime primarily on this show. We’ve strayed out into serial killers a little bit, but we lack organized crime and learning about that. He knows about Russian organized crime even speaks Russian pretty fluently. It looks to me like, so now I couldn’t judge that because you can say anything to me in a Russian accent. [00:01:00] And then I just assume you were speaking Russian David. Welcome. Hi David Paul:          Gary. Hey, thanks for having me on. I appreciate Gary Jenkins:     It. All right. Cool. And I saw you on LinkedIn. I think for, at first, I am always just noodling around trying to find somebody, a guest for the show. That sounds interesting to me and I love getting other ex-coppers out there that are doing this kind of media stuff or writing books, doing documentary films. Like I am, I’ve done a couple of three books and then four documentary films all together as these guys know. [00:01:30] And so I love talking to you guys. So let’s talk a little bit about your and my police experience. Now. I was in the organized crime unit and that’s for most of my career. I did a little bit of everything. What did you do back there in separate county? David Paul:          I’ll tell you what I was in the car of my whole career. I just didn’t have enough political juice to make the phone ring. Yeah. And you know, we had a saying great job, terrible career, but it, I had a lot of fun, especially [00:02:00] my first, you know, 10, 11 years. So I worked actually in Brentwood, Bayshore, which is in Suffolk county, long island. And it’s probably the biggest hub of Ms. 13 guys in New York state, to be honest with you. So I was in patrol for, uh, another whole 21 years. My last 13 or 14, I did the midnights, which I knew would know, not a lot of good decisions, man, after midnight. Gary Jenkins:     Oh [00:02:30] man, I tell you what the worst call is at about four 30 or so in the morning disturbance or domestic disturbance or just disturbance because at four 30 in the morning, people have been drinking all night long and they are nuts. Nothing good comes up. Disturbance called after about 4, 4 30 in the morning, the earlier ones,