From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

It's the Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell, sitting across from me after way too long a time, is our old friend

David O'Yolwa, who is starring,

after being here last for starring and directing a film. He is starring in the series,

Lawman, Bass Reeves, on Paramount Plus. First of all, it seems like the most physically demanding

thing you've ever done. So often, I'm attracted by to your work because these characters

display a sense of either awe or wonder, and we get both of that from him, just sort of wonder at the world that's the possibilities they're opening up for him and awe over what he's forced to see and endure.

Yeah.

There were so many things about this that were challenging, but you're not wrong about the physical component. And I knew that and I wanted that. You know, anyone who reads accounts of Bass Reeves, there is the legend and then there's the man. And you're obviously, the truth lies somewhere in between and what comes up again and

again is his physical strength is his prowess on a horse is his ability with a gun and he seemed to

have those things but not wield those things just by virtue of them being present, people found themselves essentially turning

themselves in because of the reputation of the man. And so if you're going to even project

those things, it needs to be in your body. And so therefore, it was over a year of training

with horse riding.

And so was that kind of physical preparation for it?

It had to be because he, I remember seeing dances with wolves when I was a lot younger

and seeing Kevin Costner on that horse and just thinking, oh my gosh, I 100% buy this character, not even the actor.

I just buy that character.

I remember seeing my left foot with Daniel Day Lewis and what he does in that film.

And so very early on, even before I was really thinking about becoming an actor,

it became apparent to me that the cost, if you are seeking to be a truth teller, is to as much as

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