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Politics Unpacked

David Owen: Labour, Limehouse and “hubris syndrome”

Politics Unpacked

Anna Covell

News & Politics, Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

David Owen became foreign secretary aged just 38, before going on to break away from Labour as one of the ‘Gang of Four’ and lead the SDP.


He talks to Matt about this defining moment in British political history, the legacy of the party today and whether prime ministers suffer from 'hubris syndrome'.


Plus columnists India Knight and James Marriott rate MPs on their TikTok skills and discuss politicians doing silly things for charity.



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0:00.0

Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Chauley, bringing you the best of my time

0:08.0

to show Monday to Friday, 10 to 1. You can listen live on your DAB radio, on your smart

0:12.8

speaker and on the Times Radio app. Coming up on today's episode, a fascinating

0:18.0

chat with David Owen, Lord Owen. You know, he was foreign to the age of 38, made me

0:22.6

feel very old and like I'd underachieved, to be honest. We talk about that, how he first

0:28.0

got into politics, the breaking away for the gang of four forming the SDP. What he thinks

0:34.0

about politics today, and his theory that certain five minutes to suffer from hubris syndrome

0:40.0

and mostly lose the plots, that's going up in just a moment. Right, the Columnist panel

0:43.3

in a sec, the night at the Marriott and now on a Friday, James, Marriott and India night

0:48.7

will be here. But first, as we like to on a Friday, let's take a look at what we learned this week.

0:53.6

We learned that Jeremy Hunt is a fan of the film, which won all the Oscars.

0:59.2

Enterprise, employment, education, everywhere. Yeah, I think that's what it's good.

1:03.8

The trouble is, he's pillars of the economy, making sound like he's at a wave.

1:07.6

Now move on to my second e. Wow, we learned that Keir Starmer isn't big on self-awareness.

1:13.0

He comes here today, but he's really mouth platitudes.

1:16.0

We learned that the Labour leader thought the Tory MPs have got out of perspective on the BBC.

1:22.3

Nobody's telling what his front bench colleague Lucy Powell was saying.

1:25.1

The much-loved sports presenter is taken off air for tweeting something the government doesn't like.

1:31.9

It sounds more like Putin's Russia to me.

1:35.4

We learned that Tory MPs Scott Benton has got a loose grasp of maths.

1:40.0

We simply can't accept hundreds of millions of people who would no doubt look to come here for a better life.

1:48.0

Hundreds of minutes.

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