Okay, hello, welcome, whoever you are old and new listeners.

This is Yoga Talks podcast.

My name is Jay Brown. Thank you so much for tuning in today.

For those of you who are returning, I'm not going to give a full report of how I'm doing today, as I often like to do in an intro to these podcasts.

I decided not to do that for two reasons.

One, kind of a big time guest today, David Lipsius from the Yoga Alliance is here.

And usually that means there's going to be a bunch of people who've not listened to the podcast before who are tuning in.

And I want to avoid the usual string of comments

and emails I get about how they wanted to hear the interview and they wish that I would

have shut up in the intro. So I'm making a choice to preemptively avoid that. But also,

frankly, there's not a lot to report report it was definitely a better week this week

than last week things settled down some which was nice i did stay true to my directive and find

some more analog time with my family which was very nice so you know not a lot to it's, okay, we're going to get more directly to the talk

today and we can come back to the ongoing sagas later. But before we listen to the talk,

I do feel like I want to set the stage for it a little bit because this talk for me is different than

the other talks that I've been sharing with you of late. For one very important reason, which is

that in this instance, I felt this pressure on me and maybe I was just putting it on myself but anytime I feel like I'm

supposed to be like a journalist like I'm supposed to be reporting on something I start to feel

really uncomfortable I'm not trained as a journalist I don't enter into these talks with that

kind of mindset.

Like last week I talked with Michelle Ryan,

and I remember talking with her.

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