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I take that little sentence except where FISA applies and I try to explain where FISA

applies, which means I'm doing a lot of spade work that they don't have to do because if

you're an operator inside NSA you've got some guidelines from your lawyers and compliance

personnel and your civil liberties folks and so forth, I'm trying to actually explain

within the four corners of my document what is going on as well as I can, which means

I've got to do a certain amount of foundation laying in for some of the shorthand in the

document in the SIGANANIX itself.

I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast January 15th, 2021.

The NSA this week released a long awaited update to its signals intelligence policy,

which had not been updated since, wait for it, 1988.

It's a dense technical document and so naturally David Chris, former assistant attorney general

for the National Security Division sat down, read it super carefully and produced an even

longer paper analyzing it.

David joined me in the virtual jungle studio to talk about the significance of NSA's new

policy document, what it does and how it's different from the document it replaces.

We also talked about his paper, how he came to write it, why it is so much longer than

the policy document itself and what the implications of the new NSA policies are for signals intelligence

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