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The Good Fight

David Goodhart on Why the Educated Elite Lost Touch with Democracy

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Yascha Mounk and David Goodhart explore how the domination of mobile, university-educated “anywheres” sparked the populist revolt. David Goodhart is a journalist, author and think tanker, and currently head of the demography unit at the Policy Exchange think tank. His latest book is The Care Dilemma: Freedom, Family and Fertility. In this week's conversation, Yascha Mounk and David Goodhart discuss why the triumphalist worldview of the early 2000s has collapsed, how the “anywhere” versus “somewhere” divide explains contemporary populism, and whether meritocracy is creating an insulated professional class that damages the communities it leaves behind. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google X: @Yascha_Mounk & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Yascha Mounk, Persuasion LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I do think one of the problems and one of the reasons why kind of politics is sort of so difficult in some ways these days than it used to be, is that, you know, when

0:39.1

politics was primarily socioeconomic, it was easier to come to compromises. It's easier to split the

0:44.8

difference on, you know, on issues to do with levels of public spending or levels of redistribution.

0:50.5

When it comes to these issues that are more to do with identities and immigration and national sovereignty, it's much harder to come to compromise.

1:02.0

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

1:10.0

Who do we value and respect in society and why?

1:16.3

One dimension of this that we don't think about enough is the respect that we give to people

1:24.5

who are college educated, who are white-collar workers, and the lack of respect we sometimes accord to those who are college-educated, who are white-collar workers, and the lack of respect.

1:29.2

We sometimes accord to those who have, quote-unquote, only graduated high school, who work in

1:34.8

blue-collar jobs, who often have very skilled trades and professions, might make decent money,

1:39.3

but may not feel as though they gain the same kind of respect at the local block party when they tell people

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