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The Bulwark Podcast

David Frum: This Is Shame-Faced Trump

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Our commander-in-chief and breaker of mores can only muster the energy to beg Republicans to stop talking about Epstein. Where is the blustery guy who proudly declared he paid no taxes and that he could shoot anyone on 5th Avenue? Because of the lame duck smell he's giving off—and the economic problems Trump himself brought on—he's not getting the support he needs from the outer MAGA media world that's obsessed with Epstein. Meanwhile, he's getting ready to have taxpayers pay off his cronies for trying to help steal the 2020 election. Plus, the four kinds of corruption in the Trump administration, the Caribbean boat bombings have driven down the price of cocaine, and the origins and modern flowering of antisemitism on the left and right.

David Frum joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

0:14.6

I'm your host, Tim Miller, delighted to welcome back, Gold Jacket guests, staff writer at the Atlantic and host of the david from show it's david from

0:22.3

how you doing sir good when you say gold i'm conjuring up one of those russlemania jackets so those really

0:27.7

shiny ones yeah okay um sure uh i kind of i'm thinking about like the master's winner or uh at

0:33.6

saturday night live like if if you've been the host i I think, five or ten times, you get a jacket.

0:38.7

That's what I had in mind.

0:40.0

But we'll give you a shiny one. All right. Thank you. I don't know. What should we talk about at the start of the podcast? Who's to say? Lots out there in the news. Won't we talk about it? Maybe Jeffrey Epstein. What do you think? All right. All right.

0:52.3

Bad for the Jews.

0:54.1

Not a great representative.

0:55.5

I want to talk about,

0:56.2

you know, there's some, there's some angst. It's a lot of negative discussion about the Jews out there

1:03.3

in the public space. I want to talk about that at the end. But yeah, Jeffrey Epstein coverup is in

1:08.5

full bloom right now. We've seen a bunch of emails, talked about that the last two shows.

1:12.7

This morning, Trump is out with a bleat about this.

1:15.8

He says this, the Democrats are doing everything and their withering power to push the Epstein hoax again.

1:20.5

Some weak Republicans have fallen into their clutches because they're soft and foolish.

1:24.9

Epstein was a Democrat, not our problem. Ask Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, Larry Summers about Epstein. They know all about them. Don't waste your time with Trump. I have a country to run. How does he sound on that? Well, when you say the cover-up is in full bloom, I think it's sort of past the bloom. Look, if you want to do a cover-up, you don't keep obsessively talking about the thing you yourself are covering up. You introduce the country to the seven brave

1:47.8

astronaut. Bloom. Look, if you want to do a cover-up, you don't keep obsessively talking about the thing you

1:44.3

yourself are covering up. You introduce the country to the seven brave astronauts who are about to

1:49.4

embark for Mars. And you announce your new Trump candy bar. And you say tariff holiday for

1:55.2

Republicans in red states and more tariffs on blue states. You do something else. But Trump, in a way, I forget whose point

2:03.7

this was, this is not original to me, I'm going to be repeating somebody else. Maybe it was

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