From the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

Here's your host, Scott Bertram.

Hello again, everybody, and welcome

into another edition of the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. On this episode, we'll talk with David

Azarad from Hillsdale in D.C. about his piece in the Claremont Review of Books, The Social

Justice Endgame. Cutty Scott Franklin from Hillsdale's English department will introduce us to Walt Whitman

and will also hear from a recent lecture from John Steele Gordon here on the campus of Hillsdale

College. We're joined now by Dr. David Azarad, a assistant professor and research fellow at

Hillsdale in D.C. and also the author of a piece in the new Claremont Review of Books online. Claremontreviewofbooks.com

The Social Justice Endgame, What Do Social Justice Warriors Want? David, thanks so much for joining us.

Thank you for having me, Scott. So it's a big question. What do social justice warriors want? How do you go about first addressing that question?

Well, I begin by dismissing the surface rhetorical fluff kumbaya rhetoric.

That, you know, they want some pretty nasty, ugly, radical things, but they generally make

sure to sprinkle on top of that a little bit of the, I don't know if you remember those

Benetton ads from the 1980s, all the different races, races standing in unity. So they throw in a

little bit of that and people, you know, some people

who get taken in by it. So, you know, they talk about love, you know, isn't it better to love

than to hate? They'll tell you that we want to build an America in which no one is oppressed,

stigmatized, or marginalized. We want to eliminate racism. How could you disagree with any of that?

So I think once you read them, though, you know, how could you disagree with any of that? So I think once you read them,

though, you realize that this is a distant, distant afterthought, that that's not where the energy is. And second, more importantly, the policies and the political program they're advancing

make the possibility of harmony practically impossible.

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