We need to change things fundamentally while people will still even give us an opportunity to do so.

Like it will even give us the trust and confidence to think that we can change things for the better.

Because like the ultimate enemy here is just despair. It's just utter hopelessness and despair.

Whatever Joe Biden does if he gets elected, it has to be big. It has to be bold.

There's no doubt that the Affordable Care Act was a big leap forward.

But as the president said the other day, President Obama, it was never meant to be the final step.

It was a step forward. There is an opportunity to do big structural things like the one you've

suggested, universal basic income. I think the things that have seemed sort of utopic and

radical in the past now seem like pragmatic answers to a large number of Americans.

I am thrilled to welcome to Yang Speaks or vice versa. This is the Yang Speaks Axe Files crossover.

It's like a superhero team up Marvel DC.

Yeah, exactly. No, it's great to be with you, Andrew Oes. What an irresistible pairing.

Yes, it's like half of a CNN studio has come to life.

Everybody misses those. How have you been?

I've been good in the scheme of things. Just working hard trying to do as much positive stuff as

possible, get money out to people. We're now at $6.5 million in direct economic aid to people

in microgrants of between $250 to $1,000. I just launched this data dividend project this week.

I don't know if you saw that. We're trying to get people paid for their data.

So that's really exciting and positive.

Yeah, so we're staying busy just trying to do good things. Obviously trying to help Joe,

whenever they ask me for help or so we're hosting an event for him online with Tammy Duckworth

next week. That's great. That's great. Well, he must be feeling good right now.

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