From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. I'm not one of the cool kids, but one of them is sitting across from me.

A guy who hasn't done this show for almost 20 years.

And to date, to date, he's still the only person to do this show who has ever been nominated

for a Tony for a show written by a film critic.

That show was the first.

Of course, I'm talking about David Allen Grigg, who's been nominated for a Tony since.

And also is probably, addition to that, the only person to have been directed by both David

Mamet and Adam Crolla in his career.

So you were...

Right and right again.

You were the first for a whole bunch of different reasons.

Well, isn't every successful black person still a first at something?

Probably a last in a lot of words. Unfortunately, yes, yes.

I.E. Barack Obama, first and last for a while.

Yes. Let us, let us, let us, let us, accept.

Let us pray, as they would say back to Detroit.

Yes, that too, that too.

I've got to ask you, so much to catch up with you a box has been so long, but the cool

kids is an interesting cast. It's you. It's the man who once played Blind Lemon Pledge,

Martin Mull, and the addition to everything else, the woman who gave us the night, the lights

went out in Georgia, Vicki Lawrence. What was that first meeting like for this?

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