There isn't a single one of them that is standing on top of something I admire and that thing they're standing on is in a bunch of learning that came out of a bunch of failures and so normalizing that the price of entry the cost of the thing we're trying to build trust me it has worked against every ounce of muscle that I've ever had I've been way more fixed mindset oriented in trying to avoid failure than running toward it.

Hey everyone welcome back to on purpose the number one health podcast in the world thanks to each and every single one of you who come back every week to listen, learn and grow. I'm genuinely so grateful for the amazing and incredible audience that you are and you know that my genuine heart and job is to try and find you guests that I believe are going to help you learn and listen and grow and help you actually live the life that is full of potential full of joy and full of happiness.

And today's guest is definitely not going to disappoint I'm actually genuinely personally very excited about this conversation because I think.

Not only are we going to love this conversation I'm going to be really surprised by a lot of the stuff that comes out of it I'm excited for that element of surprising delight that I'm expecting from this no pressure of course but as you know today's guest is an incredible husband father CEO entrepreneur and his new book which is launching this year in March is called get out of your own way.

A skeptics guide to growth and full woman we have none other than Dave Hollis Dave Jay thank you for doing this no thank you for having me appreciate no and I'm going to add this because for anyone who knows Dave you already know what he's like I've only I've been admiring Dave and watching him from afar probably for.

I think one and a half years and I only met him a couple of days ago but we've been exchanging emails and messages back and forth he's very prompt festival which tells me lots of stuff about someone and but more than that he's just got this beautiful aura emanating and he has this energy which is just very cap it's like he can give you a hug and tell you the truth at the same time which I think is like a very cool very cool mix but I'm excited build our friendship and honestly I am to and here's the thing as an admirer from afar for a long time you.

You always are somewhat leery to meet someone who you've been admiring for the risk of them letting you down and you do not do that so man I really really appreciate the chance to connect in person and look for everything it comes yeah absolutely so let's

straight into it because I feel like there's a lot of stuff we can jump into yeah when we talk about your book get out of your own way as soon as I had the title I was like oh I was like that is exactly it like I just couldn't I was just with you

I was like yes get out of your own way when was the first time in your life that you realized you are in your own way I mean here's the headline I was and have been in my own way forever and ever but probably had the hubris the

conceit ego to not fully confess or admit it until maybe even just in the last decade but I after having constructed a life around a whole host of

the truth that had been ingrained in me that fed into an identity I thought I had to live into started asking a bigger set of questions as I was crossing this

chasm between 30 and 40 where these existential things that sometimes come up around milestone birthdays weren't just lasting for the week of the

longer period of time why am I here what am I not doing that I could be doing why do I have this gift this potential from God our creator that isn't fully being exploited and if I spend the next 20 years

stuck here in my way not fully using these gifts will I have regret will my kids sitting around a table at my 60th birthday have something to toast will I die not having done the things that I was

putting on this planet to do and it was a funk at first that really had me to be honest not showing up as well as I committed to with my wife for how well I wanted to show up for my kids

and I had to do a lot of soul searching around well why in the book really truly ends up being these 20 lies that I believe that at one time or another had me in my own way that in shining the light of truth on them made them

believeable and in their unbelievable ability kept me out of my own way that's amazing and hearing you say that is like now when you say it sounds so simple but I'm sure the process is anything

but and what you add to it even more than the process and you know in this space you made a lot of people will talk about like the stuff they broke through and

then through the part that I love about yours is you sprinkle this line a skeptic sky right and it's like you're a skeptic like tell me what you a skeptical about and why where that skepticism came from

because that just when when I heard that I was like oh that's just added a whole flavor for me because I kind of see myself as indifferent when before I was involved in this whole world I was indifferent I wasn't skeptical but I wasn't

pro all of this stuff so I was indifferent but when I hear someone specifically say skeptic on all right tell me about that yeah I it's it's such a variety of factors right my family of origin

downloading software early on in my life about how you do or don't need certain things masculinity is defined by society telling me as a man whether I was good or not for being able to stand on my own or reach for help I truly had skepticism generally about the tools that I now use every

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