Dave Chapelle isn’t “cancelled.” But a pregnant, Black, trans staffer was fired in the wake of his Netflix fallout
There Are No Girls on the Internet
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4.1 • 906 Ratings
🗓️ 5 November 2021
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
B. Pagels-Minor, a former Netflix program manager, was fired in the wake of Dave Chapelle’s transphobic comedy special. But B is still fighting to build power for trans and non-binary people.
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| 0:00.0 | Just a quick heads up, this episode was filmed while I was on medical bed rest, |
| 0:04.6 | so it might sound a little bit different in terms of sound quality than the rest of our episodes. |
| 0:12.9 | There Are No Girls on the Internet is a production of IHeart Radio and Unbossed Creative. |
| 0:23.7 | I'm Bridget Todd, and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet. |
| 0:30.2 | After the release of Dave Chappelle's new comedy special The Closer on Netflix, |
| 0:35.5 | Netflix staffers and their ally spoke up about the specials transphobic material and organized a walkout. Chappelle doubled down in a newly released clip, where he said Netflix staff said they wanted |
| 0:41.5 | a safer work environment, but that he's the only one who's not able to get into the building |
| 0:45.8 | at Netflix anymore. |
| 0:46.6 | It seems like I'm the only one that can't go to the office anymore. |
| 0:50.8 | But you want to know someone who most definitely cannot get back into the Netflix building? |
| 0:55.1 | B. Paggles Minor, a very pregnant black trans former program manager who Netflix fired for |
| 1:00.6 | alleging they were the source of a Bloomberg article about just how much money Netflix spent on the |
| 1:05.9 | special. Now, B disputes this, as do their coworkers. And even after B was fired, Bloomberg continues to publish new internal metrics from Netflix, making it even more unlikely. |
| 1:17.7 | B, along with Tara Field, a trans Netflix senior software engineer who was suspended for tweeting critically about the special, have filed suits with the National Labor Relations Board, saying that Netflix |
| 1:28.6 | engaged in activity to quell employees from speaking off about working conditions, including seeking |
| 1:33.3 | to create a safe and affirming work environment, speaking up about Netflix products, and the impact |
| 1:37.7 | its product choices have on the LGBT community, and providing support for employees whom Netflix |
| 1:43.1 | has treated in an unlawful and |
| 1:44.9 | disparate manner. And as much as Dave Chappelle keeps talking about how he's being canceled, |
| 1:50.3 | you know, naturally as one does from a massive stage in front of a massive adoring audience |
| 1:54.2 | while earning millions for it, the demands of the Netflix staffers who walked out do not |
| 1:59.0 | include asking Netflix to take down the comedy special. |
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