Dave and Chris Talk About ‘The Bear’: Season 4, Pt. 1

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.8 • 8.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Dave and Chris start the episode by making PODCAST HISTORY (and avocado toast)! They then discuss knives and knife safety: one of the significant dangers in both homes and professional kitchens. Dave and Chris finish with talk of Episodes 1-5 of ‘The Bear’ Season 4—the two dive into the chefs’ reactions to bad reviews, predatory investors, the Bear employee that they think is letting the team down, and more. Learn more about JJ’s Lone Daughter Ranch: https://www.instagram.com/jjslonedaughterranch/?hl=en Learn more about Bob Kramer knives: https://kramerknives.com/ Learn more about Korin knives: https://www.korin.com/ Learn more about Kappabashi Japan: https://www.kappabashi.or.jp/ Follow Little Meg on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/little_meg_siu_meg/?hl=en Check out the Zwilling Santoku that Dave talked about: https://www.zwilling.com/us/zwilling-pro-5.5-inch-hollow-edge-santoku-knife-38408-143/38408-143-0.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqTVGfZjpzcFtDT_un1wLzxSfY_7MyBQ5ja-7RTQvPvqZvTHLSy Learn more about The Bear: https://www.hulu.com/series/05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f Watch our episode with Besha Rodell on food criticism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDExaf35qDM&t=2317s Watch our episode with Paul Carmichael on Kabawa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6gvc7ICJto&t=1s Read the great Kabawa review in the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/08/dining/kabawa-restaurant-review.html Learn more about Kabawa: https://www.instagram.com/kabawa/?hl=en Learn more about Michelin guide: https://guide.michelin.com/en Watch our episode with the Anajak Thai team on wine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBhFRoT9Pgs&t=6s Watch our episode with Will Guidara on Unreasonable Hospitality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFveotyzTA&t=3253s Learn more about Meadowood: https://meadowood.com/dining/ Watch our episode with Gerrit Cole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX2CV5gFz4Y Learn more about Per Se: https://thomaskeller.com/perseny/ Learn more about Jonathan Benno's new 425 restaurant: https://www.425parkrestaurant.com/ Learn more about Mugaritz: https://www.mugaritz.com/ Send in your Ask Dave questions to https://forms.gle/wdPsZBXXx48Zq4vu8 or [email protected] to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow.Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial.Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com.Join our community Discord on majordomo.com. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	We're going to make podcast history today, folks.
0:04.5	Not even sure anybody has ever made avocado toast on a podcast before, which is an audio-only format.
0:12.0	But thankfully, technology has allowed us to watch this as well.
0:14.9	So we will give you some ASMR.
0:17.2	So this is a world's first podcast made avocado toast.
0:23.6	And if that had already been done, it certainly hasn't been done with what we're going to combine this with, which is an in-depth analysis of season four of the Bears episodes one through five. So stay tuned. We're going to fucking blow it out.
0:38.0	Welcome back to the Dave Chang Show, part of the Ringer podcast network, presented by Major
0:41.8	WD media.
0:42.3	You are watching and listening to spot this on Spotify and on YouTube and maybe a few other
0:49.3	places.
0:50.8	Chris Ying joining me today.
0:52.9	I know he probably didn't want to because we have a shit ton of work.
0:55.8	But since we've been doing these bear podcasts reviews, we can't do it without you.
1:02.0	Nor could I be absent for a world's first on-air avocado toast.
1:07.5	Because I feel like, you know, the potfather himself gave us the idea to do 25 food trends over 25 years.
1:15.2	I was like, why just do one day?
1:17.9	We can really stretch this thing out.
1:19.5	I don't know how much we could stretch out on avocado toast.
1:22.6	So if you listen to the previous episode, we did a little bit of an impromp to start off the 25 years of 25 food
1:31.5	trends or vice versa with avocado toast. Just a little brief primer again invented in 1993 by Bill
1:41.2	Granger who passed in England. I didn't even know that he lived. When he passed, I didn't know that he moved to England, but Bills...
1:47.6	There was a few of them ultimately in Sydney, and I remember having the very first one,
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