We've gone from the verbal way of recording information, which was not very accurate.

That's where all the legends come from, to various forms of writing, to the printing press,

to ultimately digital computers and the internet.

And now data of every type is recording society in a way that essentially has a permanence attached to it.

And these intelligent entities that we can create in the future will learn from all of this.

It's a little scary for sure, technology, and innovation. What happens here matters everywhere,

and every week on this show we talk about some of the most interesting stories and trends in the

news. This week, the origins of data and the future of the human and digital species. My guest is

business and technology leader Bob Muglia, a startup investor and advisor who played key roles in the emergence of Microsoft's database, server, and business software products, and served as the CEO of Data Warehouse Company's Snowflake Computing.

He's the author with Steve Hamm of a new book called The Databapreneurs, The Promise of AI and the Creators

Building Our Future. Bob Mu, as he was affectionately known at Microsoft, connects the dots in our

conversation between data innovation and artificial intelligence. He talks about lessons

from Isaac Asimov, one of his favorite authors. He compares

Microsoft and IBM to Microsoft and OpenAI. He explains why he's ultimately an optimist about

technology and humanity, and he tells the story of the data center that he built in his house.

But we started by clearing something up that has just always bugged me.

I'd love it if you could resolve some cognitive dissonance that I've always had about your

name.

What was your nickname at Microsoft based on your email alias?

Bob Mu.

And how do you pronounce your last name?

Bob Muglia.

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