Inside the Amazon and Walmart rivalry, with Jason Del Rey
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🗓️ 21 June 2023
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Our guest this week is Jason Del Rey, a business reporter who covered Amazon, Walmart and the business of online retail for more than a decade at Recode and Vox Media. His new book is "Winner Sells All: Amazon, Walmart, and the Battle for our Wallets," which takes an inside look at what he calls "the defining business clash of this generation—a battle waged for our loyalty and wallets, with hundreds of billions of dollars at stake and millions of jobs on the line."
With GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop; edited and produced by Curt Milton.
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| 0:00.0 | Doug McMillan, you know, worked at Walmart a very long time, early 2014, he becomes CEO and at some point early in his tenure he does the Silicon Valley pilgrimage. |
| 0:13.0 | One of his key stops was Google and meeting with Larry Page and a few others. |
| 0:18.0 | Larry basically makes the case to Doug, you guys, you know, you want to do this digital transformation thing. You really don't have a shot unless you partner with Google, essentially. It just did not go over for well with him and my reporting |
| 0:35.2 | showed that it did have a real outcome on both companies businesses and how they |
| 0:40.1 | thought about each other for a few years at least. It's also very good for |
| 0:43.5 | Microsoft because Walmart wasn't about to take its cloud business to AWS, |
| 0:47.8 | Amazon Web Services, and you've seen Microsoft and Walmart get pretty close over the years. |
| 0:53.4 | Absolutely. |
| 0:54.4 | Welcome to GeekWire. |
| 0:59.4 | I'm GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop. That anecdote about Google and Walmart in the opener |
| 1:05.5 | is one of the revelations in the new book, Winner sells all, Amazon, Walmart, and the battle for our |
| 1:11.9 | wallets, by my guest, Jason Del Rey. Walmart and the Battle for our Wallets. |
| 1:12.8 | By my guest, Jason Del Rey, the business journalist who developed a reputation for |
| 1:17.4 | scoops and smart reporting about the online retail industry, |
| 1:20.9 | as a reporter for more than a decade at RICOD and Vox Media. |
| 1:25.0 | Jason, thanks for joining me. |
| 1:27.0 | Hey, really appreciate it. |
| 1:28.0 | Of course, I followed your reporting for many years and I got to say |
| 1:32.0 | the structure of this book comparing Walmart to |
| 1:36.3 | Amazon in a long form really focused the Amazon story for me because it focused it |
| 1:42.1 | on its core business and my first thought as I got |
| 1:45.1 | into the book was it made me wonder if this general construct might be a good way |
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