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The NPR Politics Podcast

Data Difficulty: How DOGE Could Hurt The Census And More

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

The Trump administration team that calls itself the Department of Government Efficiency has gathered a ton of data on people in the U.S. — often without providing answers on exactly how it will be used.

Data experts fear that will many people wary of answering the census and crucial government surveys that produce monthly jobs numbers and other key statistics.

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0:42.1

This podcast was recorded at 1.19 p.m. on Wednesday, June 4th, 2025. Things may have changed by the time you hear it,

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but I'll still be enjoying this glorious noise. Okay, here's the show.

0:58.3

Love a good trivia timestamp. I did not know that about the Mill in Kansas, so thank you.

1:04.4

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Miles Parks. I cover voting.

1:08.7

I'm Hansi Luong. I cover federal agencies. And I'm Stephen Fowler.

1:11.8

I cover government restructuring. And today on the show, Data. Elon Musk and the team that calls itself

1:18.2

the Department of Government Efficiency have gathered a ton of it. But without providing many answers on how

1:23.9

or what their ultimate plans are with it. And now, it seems like those efforts are actually

1:29.1

making it harder for other parts of the government to produce accurate and reliable statistics

1:33.4

about the country. Hansi, this is your lane. You are our government, my personal government data

1:39.3

guru. So I'm hoping you could just get us up to speed on what you're hearing here.

1:42.7

Oh my, that's quite a title. Thank you, Miles.

1:45.3

I think I've earned it because I covered the Census Bureau, and so they're known to produce the

1:51.9

census results, as other key statistics as well.

1:54.7

And they've had, you know, a major problem for decades, fewer people willing to answer

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