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The NPR Politics Podcast

Explaining Trump's New Travel Ban

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

President Trump issued a presidential proclamation Wednesday that bans citizens of 12 countries, and severely restricts citizens from seven others, from entering the United States. We explain the ban and how it compares to similar attempts made in Trump's first term to limit entry to the country.

This episode: voting correspondent Miles Parks, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, and immigration policy reporter Ximena Bustillo.

This podcast was produced by Bria Suggs and edited by Casey Morell. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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0:00.0

This is Zayana from Ithaca, New York. We just got done trying 19 different mac and cheeses at the Mac and Cheese Bowl fundraiser to support our local Food Net Meals on Wheels. This podcast was recorded at 12.36 p.m. on Thursday, June 5th, 2025. Things might have changed by the time you hear this, but we certainly will have had our filling of mac and cheese for a while.

0:24.6

Enjoy the show.

0:29.3

I mean, I got two kids. I didn't know you could have 19 variations of mac and cheese.

0:35.1

I need a nap just hearing about eating that much mac and cheese.

0:38.6

I stopped my lunch to tape this pod, so that made me hungrier.

0:43.0

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Miles Parks. I cover voting.

0:47.5

I'm Jimenez-Aboostia, and I cover immigration policy.

0:49.9

And I'm Frank Ordonez. I cover the White House.

0:51.8

And today on the show, the Trump administration has issued a new travel ban starting next week, targeting people from almost 20 countries.

0:59.8

Hima, let's just start there.

1:01.4

What does this new ban say?

1:02.7

And who does it affect?

1:03.3

So the executive action targets 12 countries for a full ban to come to the United States.

1:15.4

And that includes countries like Haiti, Somalia,

1:22.8

and Afghanistan. And then it also is a partial ban on seven countries, including Cuba,

1:30.0

Laos, and Venezuela. And that partial ban really changes depending on the country and what category of visas or way of traveling to the United States are limited. But then for all of these countries,

1:35.6

there are some exceptions, right, Franco? Yeah, there are some exceptions to the ban. If, for example,

1:42.0

you have a green card, if you are a dual citizen, if you have some

1:48.5

existing visa members, such as connection to family members, actually certain athletes

1:54.4

are able to get in. Also, refugees who have been granted asylum. And also, Afghans, who helped the United States in the war in Afghanistan? And that's actually a bit of a

2:07.7

controversial aspect because now the Afghans who helped the U.S. during the war, they have a carve out for them, but their family members do not necessarily have a carve

2:19.3

out. And that is likely to impact like tens of thousands of people who were on a pipeline

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