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I'm Francis Foster I'm Constantin Christian Christian.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

I don't know that it gets any more fascinating than the guest we have for you today.

He's a conservative commentator who's currently being investigated by the Metropolitan Police for an interview he did was someone else for words that that someone else said.

Down Grimes, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you so much for having us.

I'm a massive fan of the show, so it's an honor.

Well, it's very kind of you to say and it's a pleasure to have you here,

although I think we'd all wish the circumstances were slightly different.

Quite, yes.

I wish you were getting us on for me views and not for the fact that it's been investigated

by the coppers, eh?

Well, your views are very problematic, apparently, or your lack of them in that particular instance.

But look, before we get into into it I think a lot of people

who will be watching this and listen to this will care very deeply about freedom of speech but you'll be

interesting just for people who may be not familiar with your background to tell everybody who are you,

how are you where you are, what has been the journey that leads you to this very strange situation here?

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