Darnell Lamont Walker: Listen to a Death Doula: This Is What Love Looks Like
Sounds True: Insights at the Edge
Tami Simon
4.6 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
“Let people love you.” Death doula Darnell Lamont Walker finds himself saying this phrase again and again at bedsides —to those afraid of being “seen” in their final days, to those who’ve built walls around receiving care. In this moving conversation with Tami Simon, the Emmy-nominated writer shares what decades of accompanying the dying have taught him about love, grief, and letting ourselves be held.
This conversation offers genuine transmission—not just concepts about awakening, but the palpable presence of realized teachers exploring the growing edge of spiritual understanding together. Originally aired on Sounds True One.
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| 0:00.0 | The Sounds True Podcast Network. |
| 0:07.0 | In our last days, some people don't want to be seen in the hospital or on their deathbed, where I don't want to be a burden. |
| 0:14.0 | I don't want people to see me like this. |
| 0:15.8 | I feel ashamed. |
| 0:17.1 | And I try to explain that, listen, this is sometimes what love looks like. |
| 0:22.4 | There's nothing to be ashamed of. |
| 0:24.4 | This is love. |
| 0:26.0 | People want to love you. |
| 0:27.1 | Let people love you. |
| 0:32.1 | Welcome, friends. |
| 0:33.4 | In this episode of Insights at the Edge, my guest is Darnel Lamont Walker. |
| 0:39.1 | Darnell is a death dula, someone who provides end-of-life accompaniment and support to individuals |
| 0:46.6 | and families during the final stages of life. |
| 0:51.1 | He's also an Emmy-nominated children's television writer and producer and an acclaimed |
| 0:57.3 | documentary filmmaker. Darnell is tremendously talented and generous of heart. And he's written a new |
| 1:07.0 | book. It's called Never Say Goodbye, The Life of a Death Dula, and the Art of a Peaceful End. |
| 1:15.3 | Friends, stay with us. |
| 1:31.3 | Darnel, welcome. |
| 1:32.6 | Thank you so much. |
| 1:33.7 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:36.8 | I always love to hear the introduction. |
| 1:38.8 | I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. |
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