Welcome to part two of our conversation with Connie LaFave about the dark side of the dead.

How do you handle it? What do you recommend to someone when in this case you got it on tape?

You got the evidence that you you wanted to be able to bring to the church, but you know

they're not going to be showing up the next day. It's going to take some time for them to evaluate this material and understand it.

And in that time window, this person along with their suspected person who may be possessed are there.

How I mean, that's a big chunk of time where we're nothing is going to be done about this.

How do you or what do you say to them of basically how do you maintain?

How do you manage this until someone can come in here and kind of pick up the torch and and do more than you could on your own?

Well, and I think we've gotten down to art form the way we handle it.

One, don't ever invent, don't ever abandon your client. When they when they've come to you for help and they're having ongoing experiences, you don't just walk away from and say we're done.

You can't. That's irresponsible as a client, you know, as you know to do that to a client. So the first thing we did was to kept in touch with her.

We asked her to keep track of what was going on on a piece of paper, log it, log everything that happens.

We would get with her on a regular basis and we did recommend cleansing just to keep it at bay. It doesn't mean it's going to go away.

It just means we can do some things to a little to limit what's going on.

Also keep your head strong and I said, you can't be weak. You have to stand up and fight this thing.

You can't let your guard down. So in conjunction with giving them some control back, that's what you have to do.

You have to take your clients say we're going to give you some control of the situation.

You're going to write down stuff, contact us. If you're having a bad day or things are going south.

Here's some prayers you can say. Here's some people in your local community that can help you.

If you get in a dire situation. So it's really important to arm your client with some control.

It's really important to not walk away. It's important to let them know that you're there for them and reassure them and to tell them to stay emotionally strong.

So those four things I think has really helped us along the way when this has happened to other people.

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